[INSTRM-1976] photometric zero-point from AG Created: 11/May/23 Updated: 27/Mar/24 |
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Status: | In Progress |
Project: | Instrument control development |
Component/s: | ics_agccActor |
Affects Version/s: | None |
Fix Version/s: | None |
Type: | Task | Priority: | Normal |
Reporter: | Masayuki Tanaka | Assignee: | Unassigned |
Resolution: | Unresolved | Votes: | 0 |
Labels: | EngRun | ||
Remaining Estimate: | Not Specified | ||
Time Spent: | Not Specified | ||
Original Estimate: | Not Specified |
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Sprint: | Eng13Oct |
Description |
The obsproc working group would like to suggest that we measure the photometric zero-point in each AG exposure. This will allow us to measure the median zero-point and rms during an PFS exposure, which will be very useful for us to do an initial quality assessment at the summit in real-time. We consider this functionality crucial for the future PFS science operation. The color-term to translate the Gaia photometry into the AG system needs to be estimated. |
Comments |
Comment by yuki.moritani [ 18/May/23 ] |
(for recording) Jennifer will work on after she improved conversion formula using the 2023 April/May run. |
Comment by karr [ 15/Aug/23 ] |
I'm working on the colour-term from GAIA to the AG cameras, and have the sample code from Arnaud for the calculation. Have any standard stars been systematically observed with the AG? If so, what are the stars/visit IDs. Otherwise, I can run through the observed stars looking for appropriate candidates and observing conditions. |
Comment by Masayuki Tanaka [ 17/Aug/23 ] |
If we do not care too much about the absolute zero-point of the AG, then |
Comment by karr [ 17/Aug/23 ] |
Thanks, that matches what I was planning if there weren't systematic calibration observations. |
Comment by karr [ 01/Sep/23 ] |
Filtering the data by seeing (using the spot size), flux (eliminating faint sources), and sources near the edge of the detector (via the flags), gives sets of reasonably well behaved fluxes/colours. Fitting each set of sources using a linear fit with outlier rejection to derive the colour term and a zero point produces generally consistent values, with some scatter. Looking at the fits, in some fields, particularly those with a small number of sources, the outlier rejection obviously needs to be fine-tuned. |
Comment by Masayuki Tanaka [ 04/Sep/23 ] |
Could you share a few plots? I think we want a higher order function to fit the data. Probably 2nd or 3rd order polynomials. As Jim mentioned the other day, we can estimate the color term using the response functions and a stellar library. I can do that and you can compare it with yours, if that is useful. |
Comment by karr [ 13/Sep/23 ] |
For the plots below
for the plot of AGmag - Gaia G vs GAIA rp - GAIA bp the best slope and intercept are -0.30 and -30.45 (with a bin size of 0.01). The first two figures show the histograms; the results are consistent within the bin size for small changes in limiting magnitude; increasing the limiting magnitude, lowering the seeing threshold or combining images produces a larger scatter. The next two pairs of plots show example colour and magnitude plots for two fields, one with a small number of sources, one with a large. Higher order fits will, I think, need to be left for systematically taken measurements of standard stars in photometric conditions. |
Comment by karr [ 13/Sep/23 ] |
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Comment by Masayuki Tanaka [ 13/Sep/23 ] |
In your mag_AG - G vs. Bp - Rp plots, I see stars have Bp-Rp ~ -2. This is too blue. See, e.g., https://sci.esa.int/web/gaia/-/60198-gaia-hertzsprung-russell-diagram |
Comment by karr [ 28/Sep/23 ] |
Comment by karr [ 28/Sep/23 ] |
The PDF attached above has notes about the AG calibration and validation of measured results. |
Comment by rhl [ 30/Sep/23 ] |
I'm assuming that this ticket is where the analysis for
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Comment by yuki.moritani [ 05/Oct/23 ] |
(This is for recording) Jennifer will work on 1. and 4. first. Some items may be addressed in the new tickets. |
Comment by karr [ 13/Oct/23 ] |
An updated report is attached. |
Comment by yuki.moritani [ 25/Jan/24 ] |
(Recapping activities in the last a few months)
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Comment by karr [ 30/Jan/24 ] |
Report is attached. report.pdf |
Comment by yuki.moritani [ 23/Feb/24 ] |
Earlier this week, we talked about how/who to do what again. Considering the role of agccActor, Jennifer will focus on fixing |