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            <title>[REDMINE1D-36] [RM-6165] use likelihood instead of posterior for merit</title>
                <link>https://pfspipe.ipmu.jp/jira/browse/REDMINE1D-36</link>
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                    <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#505f79&quot;&gt; Created on 2020-12-04 08:51:23 by Didier Vibert. % Done: 100&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;p&gt;we should try to integrate the likelihood under the peak instead of the posterior, ie not renormalize to unit integral, that is not divide by the evidence which encode the probability of the data (goodness of fit).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This has not impact on the ordering of candidates for one spectra, but may help as a confidence indicator from one spectra to the other.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the purity/completness we could as well try to use the evidence (ie the likelihood integrated over the whole z range)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <key id="16740">REDMINE1D-36</key>
            <summary>[RM-6165] use likelihood instead of posterior for merit</summary>
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                <created>Fri, 4 Jun 2021 01:20:17 +0000</created>
                <updated>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:10:49 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:10:49 +0000</resolved>
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                            <comment id="32962" author="yuki.moritani" created="Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:10:12 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Comment by Didier Vibert on 2021-11-29 10:33:59:&lt;br/&gt;
bon il semble que ce soit une mauvaise id&#233;e en fin de compte.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sur la simulation ELcosmos, en rempla&#231;ant le merit (prob int&#233;gr&#233;e) par la vraisemblance int&#233;gr&#233;e (en log) on ne discrimine plus du tout entre les spurious et les targets:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;https://pfspipe.ipmu.jp/jira/images/icons/attach/noimage.png&quot; imagetext=&quot;Capture%20d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran%20de%202021-11-29%2011-10-56.png&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;note: le calcul du nouveau merit est le suivant:&lt;br/&gt;
log_merit_likelihood = log(merit) + max(log(evidence), 1700)  - mean(log(evidence))&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;les valeurs des &#233;vidences sont tr&#232;s &#233;tal&#233;es (range de taille exp(300)...):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://pfspipe.ipmu.jp/jira/images/icons/attach/noimage.png&quot; imagetext=&quot;Capture%20d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran%20de%202021-11-29%2011-25-18.png&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;https://pfspipe.ipmu.jp/jira/images/icons/attach/noimage.png&quot; imagetext=&quot;Capture%20d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran%20de%202021-11-29%2011-25-37.png&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Du coup, le merit (ie la fraction du pic sur le total de la pdf ) est noy&#233; compl&#232;tement par la valeur de l&apos;&#233;vidence qui elle n&apos;est pas du tout discriminante.&lt;br/&gt;
Si on avait utilis&#233; le chi2 r&#233;duit (ou pas, le nb de points &amp;amp; param est le m&#234;me pour tous les spectres) comme merit, on aurait eu aussi un truc pas discriminant du tout.... &#224; tester ?&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="32963" author="yuki.moritani" created="Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:10:13 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Comment by Didier Vibert on 2021-11-29 10:35:44:&lt;br/&gt;
Morgan a test&#233; aussi de son c&#244;t&#233; l&apos;utilisation les log_vraissemblance au lieu des log_posterieur pour l&apos;apprentissage de la reliabilit&#233;, et &#231;a ne marche pas du tout non plus, ce qui n&apos;est pas surprenant au vu des r&#233;sultats pr&#233;c&#233;dents...&lt;/p&gt;
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